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		<title>By: Gov 2.0: How to pick a citizen idea platform &#171; Social Computing Technology</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gov 2.0: How to pick a citizen idea platform &#171; Social Computing Technology</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Apr 2010 00:50:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Gov 2.0: The 3 phases of citizen idea platforms</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gov 2.0: The 3 phases of citizen idea platforms</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 16:33:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: links for 2010-01-28 &#171; riverrun meaghn beta</title>
		<link>http://govfresh.com/2010/01/how-to-pick-a-citizen-idea-platform/comment-page-1/#comment-1823</link>
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		<title>By: Margarita Quihuis</title>
		<link>http://govfresh.com/2010/01/how-to-pick-a-citizen-idea-platform/comment-page-1/#comment-1822</link>
		<dc:creator>Margarita Quihuis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 21:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spiro,
exactly!  We can&#039;t rely on &#039;if you build it they will come&#039; as a strategy.  This notion of open innovation in the government space is very nascent and will take time to socialize.  I think simple mobile apps like SeeClickFix and FixMyPothole will become the first links in a chain of behaviors among citizens.

We&#039;re looking for minimum viable behavior change here - what is the easiest first step that a citizen can take, turn it into a habit then a ritual and then build on top of that.

Manor Labs is fascinating to me because it&#039;s looking to create a behavior change from within AND without - to get city employees to see themselves as contributors and innovators rather than paycheck collecting civil servants while also inviting the public to interact with the government beyond the ballot box.

We&#039;re very interested in games (see Byron Reeves&#039; work at Stanford  - http://www.techaffair.com/2009/08/byron-reeves-work-sucks-games-are-great/) and how game mechanics - points, trophies, recognitions, dashboards and leveling up act as persuasive motivators to get people to continue playing and re-engaging.  Manor Labs is using Spigit as a testbed to see if game mechanics are valid in a government context.  

Let&#039;s keep the conversation going.

- Margarita</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spiro,<br />
exactly!  We can&#8217;t rely on &#8216;if you build it they will come&#8217; as a strategy.  This notion of open innovation in the government space is very nascent and will take time to socialize.  I think simple mobile apps like SeeClickFix and FixMyPothole will become the first links in a chain of behaviors among citizens.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re looking for minimum viable behavior change here &#8211; what is the easiest first step that a citizen can take, turn it into a habit then a ritual and then build on top of that.</p>
<p>Manor Labs is fascinating to me because it&#8217;s looking to create a behavior change from within AND without &#8211; to get city employees to see themselves as contributors and innovators rather than paycheck collecting civil servants while also inviting the public to interact with the government beyond the ballot box.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re very interested in games (see Byron Reeves&#8217; work at Stanford  &#8211; <a href="http://www.techaffair.com/2009/08/byron-reeves-work-sucks-games-are-great/)" rel="nofollow">http://www.techaffair.com/2009/08/byron-reeves-work-sucks-games-are-great/)</a> and how game mechanics &#8211; points, trophies, recognitions, dashboards and leveling up act as persuasive motivators to get people to continue playing and re-engaging.  Manor Labs is using Spigit as a testbed to see if game mechanics are valid in a government context.  </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s keep the conversation going.</p>
<p>- Margarita</p>
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		<title>By: Dustin Haisler</title>
		<link>http://govfresh.com/2010/01/how-to-pick-a-citizen-idea-platform/comment-page-1/#comment-1820</link>
		<dc:creator>Dustin Haisler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 20:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Geordie,

Thanks for the feedback!  

I do believe that the platform is one significant component of a larger multi-dimensional process as you described; however, the capabilities and structure of the platform can significantly hinder the overall process.  I would be interested in talking with you in more detail about PubliVate, as Margarita and I continue to expand our research on idea generation platforms.  

Best regards,

Dustin
dhaisler@cityofmanor.org
T 512.272.5555</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geordie,</p>
<p>Thanks for the feedback!  </p>
<p>I do believe that the platform is one significant component of a larger multi-dimensional process as you described; however, the capabilities and structure of the platform can significantly hinder the overall process.  I would be interested in talking with you in more detail about PubliVate, as Margarita and I continue to expand our research on idea generation platforms.  </p>
<p>Best regards,</p>
<p>Dustin<br />
<a href="mailto:dhaisler@cityofmanor.org">dhaisler@cityofmanor.org</a><br />
T 512.272.5555</p>
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		<title>By: Spiro Spiliadis</title>
		<link>http://govfresh.com/2010/01/how-to-pick-a-citizen-idea-platform/comment-page-1/#comment-1819</link>
		<dc:creator>Spiro Spiliadis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 20:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found this very intriguing as i am new to open innovation platforms and  ideation that asks for external input, i realized that the &quot;issue&quot; at hand is customer&#039;s realizing that they have to co-create, 

but the motivation factor i think isn&#039;t making it only easier but a sense that there needs to be a customer manifesto of some kind that educates why you must participate and the overall good it will do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found this very intriguing as i am new to open innovation platforms and  ideation that asks for external input, i realized that the &#8220;issue&#8221; at hand is customer&#8217;s realizing that they have to co-create, </p>
<p>but the motivation factor i think isn&#8217;t making it only easier but a sense that there needs to be a customer manifesto of some kind that educates why you must participate and the overall good it will do.</p>
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		<title>By: Margarita Quihuis</title>
		<link>http://govfresh.com/2010/01/how-to-pick-a-citizen-idea-platform/comment-page-1/#comment-1818</link>
		<dc:creator>Margarita Quihuis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 20:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a co-author I appreciate all the comments!  This article didn&#039;t even begin to scratch the surface of how to spur ideation and open innovation.  

Both Dustin and I have been experimenting and wrestling with these issues:

* How to get the public involved in better governance?
* What is the process/mechanism/tools that make it *easy* for them to get involved and stay involved?
* How does government incorporate this feedback and turn it into actionable tasks?
* How do you close the feedback loop so the public gets a sense of self efficacy?  That their ideas become solutions which in turn spurs the public to come up with more ideas?  (Crowdsourced government solutions)

When we started experimenting, we immediately ran into some basic issues.  For instance, with Ideas4Haiti, getting people to login became a big deal.  Any web 2.0 site developer will tell you that you lose an enormous amount of people at the login stage.  So even though a platform might have the right list of features, the user experience can make a huge difference in engagement.  This is even before we get people to submit ideas.  So a platform that uses Facebook login becomes key.

Other issues include motivation.  In the Persuasive Technology Lab we talk about putting &quot;hot triggers in front of motivated people.&#039;  The donate for Haiti buttons that have popped up all over the web are a prime example of this.  People are motivated to help and the &#039;Donate Now&#039; button lets them act on this immediately.

So, what is the motivation for people to submit ideas?  When are people primed?  Right now, the only tools we have readily available for open gov idea is platforms such as Spigit, BrightIdea, IdeaScale, etc.  

Is it better to have mobile apps like SeeClickFix have a &#039;suggestion&#039; button instead?  How do we get these mobile apps widely distributed among the citizenry?

I better stop now -- this is becoming a new blog article. :-)

Please comment. I&#039;m interested in your thoughts.

- Margarita</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a co-author I appreciate all the comments!  This article didn&#8217;t even begin to scratch the surface of how to spur ideation and open innovation.  </p>
<p>Both Dustin and I have been experimenting and wrestling with these issues:</p>
<p>* How to get the public involved in better governance?<br />
* What is the process/mechanism/tools that make it *easy* for them to get involved and stay involved?<br />
* How does government incorporate this feedback and turn it into actionable tasks?<br />
* How do you close the feedback loop so the public gets a sense of self efficacy?  That their ideas become solutions which in turn spurs the public to come up with more ideas?  (Crowdsourced government solutions)</p>
<p>When we started experimenting, we immediately ran into some basic issues.  For instance, with Ideas4Haiti, getting people to login became a big deal.  Any web 2.0 site developer will tell you that you lose an enormous amount of people at the login stage.  So even though a platform might have the right list of features, the user experience can make a huge difference in engagement.  This is even before we get people to submit ideas.  So a platform that uses Facebook login becomes key.</p>
<p>Other issues include motivation.  In the Persuasive Technology Lab we talk about putting &#8220;hot triggers in front of motivated people.&#8217;  The donate for Haiti buttons that have popped up all over the web are a prime example of this.  People are motivated to help and the &#8216;Donate Now&#8217; button lets them act on this immediately.</p>
<p>So, what is the motivation for people to submit ideas?  When are people primed?  Right now, the only tools we have readily available for open gov idea is platforms such as Spigit, BrightIdea, IdeaScale, etc.  </p>
<p>Is it better to have mobile apps like SeeClickFix have a &#8216;suggestion&#8217; button instead?  How do we get these mobile apps widely distributed among the citizenry?</p>
<p>I better stop now &#8212; this is becoming a new blog article. :-)</p>
<p>Please comment. I&#8217;m interested in your thoughts.</p>
<p>- Margarita</p>
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		<title>By: Geordie Adams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geordie Adams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 18:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dustin, philosophically and practically (and factually, as our results are showing this) it is - and I can&#039;t be explicit enough about this - not the platform that allows users and leaders to get the outcome they desire from ideation/innovation management.  PubilVate has a platform that is closer to Spigit than others mentioned but the part that we promote (whether organizations use us or not) is that the process, support, and tools (one of which is the platform and, yes, we would advocate - and have - a platform that is reasonably robust in receiving ideas and able to push the right ideas towards implementation at the right time) is far more important for achieving your outcome that just a platform.  This is particularly profound and important in the public sector given elements of ideation that are unique; governance, recognition, review and approval structure, and culture, to name a few.  I would also agree with Janelle in the sense that each innovation and collaboration engagement - if done properly in our opinion - has its own DNA and needs to be structured as such.

So, while I agree with your comparison (and if you are adding to it we would certainly like to be included), we would also say that the platform is one-dimension of a multi-dimension solution.  Ultimately, for organizations considering ideation or not happy with the results they are achieving, they need to ensure that they have a life-cycle solution aligned to the community they want to leverage.

Thanks...Geordie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dustin, philosophically and practically (and factually, as our results are showing this) it is &#8211; and I can&#8217;t be explicit enough about this &#8211; not the platform that allows users and leaders to get the outcome they desire from ideation/innovation management.  PubilVate has a platform that is closer to Spigit than others mentioned but the part that we promote (whether organizations use us or not) is that the process, support, and tools (one of which is the platform and, yes, we would advocate &#8211; and have &#8211; a platform that is reasonably robust in receiving ideas and able to push the right ideas towards implementation at the right time) is far more important for achieving your outcome that just a platform.  This is particularly profound and important in the public sector given elements of ideation that are unique; governance, recognition, review and approval structure, and culture, to name a few.  I would also agree with Janelle in the sense that each innovation and collaboration engagement &#8211; if done properly in our opinion &#8211; has its own DNA and needs to be structured as such.</p>
<p>So, while I agree with your comparison (and if you are adding to it we would certainly like to be included), we would also say that the platform is one-dimension of a multi-dimension solution.  Ultimately, for organizations considering ideation or not happy with the results they are achieving, they need to ensure that they have a life-cycle solution aligned to the community they want to leverage.</p>
<p>Thanks&#8230;Geordie</p>
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		<title>By: Dustin Haisler</title>
		<link>http://govfresh.com/2010/01/how-to-pick-a-citizen-idea-platform/comment-page-1/#comment-1814</link>
		<dc:creator>Dustin Haisler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 17:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Chris,

Sorry about that; however, I&#039;m working on a more extensive and detailed guide to open innovation platforms and I&#039;d love to include Delib&#039;s in it.  Let&#039;s touch base soon so I can get some information from you to get started.

Best,

Dustin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Chris,</p>
<p>Sorry about that; however, I&#8217;m working on a more extensive and detailed guide to open innovation platforms and I&#8217;d love to include Delib&#8217;s in it.  Let&#8217;s touch base soon so I can get some information from you to get started.</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Dustin</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Q</title>
		<link>http://govfresh.com/2010/01/how-to-pick-a-citizen-idea-platform/comment-page-1/#comment-1813</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Q</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 16:28:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Dustin - great post - like your comparisons etc. Though you missed Delib&#039;s Dialogue app too - which we developed with NAPA!

Check it out in action here:
http://www.helpusimprovekings.org/

And product overview here:
http://www.delib.co.uk/products_and_services/dialogue-app

Cheers!

Q</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Dustin &#8211; great post &#8211; like your comparisons etc. Though you missed Delib&#8217;s Dialogue app too &#8211; which we developed with NAPA!</p>
<p>Check it out in action here:<br />
<a href="http://www.helpusimprovekings.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.helpusimprovekings.org/</a></p>
<p>And product overview here:<br />
<a href="http://www.delib.co.uk/products_and_services/dialogue-app" rel="nofollow">http://www.delib.co.uk/products_and_services/dialogue-app</a></p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
<p>Q</p>
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